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Is 17th Precinct worth airing? A script review

Did you cry when you watched 'The Aurors'? Did you hiss when NBC canceled '17th Precinct'? If you wondered what happened, wonder no more. Is Ron Moore's script as awesome as 'Serenity' or as abysmal as 'Bionic Woman'? Read on to find out!

 

Two weeks ago, when NBC finally killed Wonder Woman, we, here at CliqueClack breathed a collective sigh of relief. All the same we still found ourselves depressed over the simultaneous cancellation of 17th Precinct. Luckily, our beloved editor-in-chief had the script ready for preview. Although Brittany and I read it over with girlish squeals, those squeals quickly translated to morbid sighs.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Ron Moore. The man who rekindled my 1980s love of Battlestar Galactica for the post-modern generation will always deserve my respect and adoration. However, for good or bad, Ron Moore is TV’s modern-day George Lucas. On the good side, he creates awesome, fantastical worlds that are ahead of their time. On the bad side, when re-creating awesome 1970s sci-fi worlds, he forgets to update the dialogue. So, is 17th Precinct like Star Wars for the post-1990s (a written script better left in the 1970s without the hideous Jar Jar updating), or is it like Star Wars for the 1970s (something totally awesome and unseen ever before)?

Read on to see what Brittany and I thought. Let us know if you feel NBC should carry the unaired episodes over to SyFy in the comments.

An: I have looked forward to 17th Precinct ever since IGN’s The Aurors April Fool’s day trailer and the 17th Precinct publicity stills. So, when I heard they canceled it, I cried tears of blood. Yet, surprisingly, after reading the script, my untyped yearning for the pilot quenched. At its best, 17th Precinct looks like Dresden Files meets The Aurors meets the Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter series (the comic or the first three novels). However, at its worst, when you remove the magical elements, it’s like every single bad cop show that seems unaware of its underdeveloped characters and believes its “cool” factor will carry it through.

Every show creator has his or her strengths and weaknesses. Take for instance Joss Whedon, whose initial ideas always sink bottom, but whose re-imaginings are always rock solid (think Buffy the movie vs. Buffy the TV show and Firefly the pilot vs. Serenity the movie). Similar to Whedon, Ron Moore has his strengths and weaknesses. While he does a great job imagining and recreating new worlds (think Battlestar Galactica), occasionally he does an abysmal job fleshing out characters (think Bionic Woman). Unfortunately, 17th Precinct combines both. The marginalia describing the magical universe provides a densely texured world, a la Battlestar Galactica. However, the characters appeared to fit a standard cardboard template, a la Bionic Woman. On the one hand, I could see myself watching the show for the special effects, while hoping the show’s progression would develop the characters. However, I almost understand why NBC canceled it. If it had amazing effects but terrible characters who hadn’t improved, could they really take the risk on something that would undergo comparison to Harry Potter and the Dresden Files, especially with the similarly created Grimm?

Although I haven’t read too many pilot scripts, the difference between a crisp, professional script, an insecure one, and an amazingly confident one leak across the page pretty obviously. I would categorize the script as amazingly confident and clearly written by someone familiar with the process. At points it felt too confident and seemingly took certain things for granted. While the initial ad libbed greeting indicates a trust in the actor, I felt it walked away from an opportunity to establish the characters. I always hate it when scripts specify a character’s numeric age (i.e. 40s vs. just saying “middle aged”), sometimes I feel it limits the casting process and restricts a character to the stereotypes surrounding his or her age as opposed to his or her unique personality traits.

So, I’m up in the air. The show could’ve done well based on geek factor alone. After all, summer shows like Haven and Warehouse 13, who started off with the concept but deepened the characters later, have both done well. Then again, I believe a show’s strength comes from its characters and its writing (think X-Files). I hate to think that two sci fi shows (Wonder Woman, 17th Precinct) died before they left the initial reel. I wish Syfy would pick up the unaired episodes for a special mini-series. Despite my feelings on the script, the show had a good cast and a world which called for fabulous special effects. And that’s something which might deserve the light of day.

Brittany: I pretty much have to agree with everything you said. Like you, I had really high hopes for this show, because of the cast and creative pedigree. (In particular, and a bit selfishly, because it’s been said this is the gig Jamie Bamber left my beloved Law & Order: UK for.)  But I think it’s a case of the stars getting in my eyes. Strip away the neat special effects, and 17th Precinct feels like another average procedural … and I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of hearing everyone whine about how many procedurals we have on TV every year.

The special effects sound neat on the page, but I can only imagine how much money bringing them to life would cost episode after episode. And honestly, neat effects only take a show so far. The characters, as you said, all seemed fairly weak and I just wasn’t engaging with them the way that I was hoping for. Of course, you get all the jargon and such that comes with establishing a whole universe – especially a sci-fi one, for which there is usually little to no frame of reference for the viewer, so that’s all the more exposition – which was clunky and certainly didn’t help any. And there were some lines of dialogue that were written as such obvious one-liners that it bordered on cheesy. It was like getting a Christmas present in a big, shiny package and then finding out there’s not much inside.

Now, I don’t mean to say I loathed the entire script. I didn’t. But it was very much a pilot, and a so-so pilot at that. In all fairness, I can think of very few pilot episodes that I liked — Sports Night, Third Watch, The Chicago Code; even Human Target took two episodes to find its stride. It’s entirely possible that given a handful more episodes, we’d have started to dig into the characters more (at least we’d certainly have moved past all the exposition). But usually, even in the murkiness of pilots, you can see some sort of potential that makes you want to hang on past the starting line. And I didn’t quite find that here.

I feel a lot better about letting this one go, now that I’ve read the pilot. Fantastic cast, interesting idea, but maybe it just wasn’t meant to be.

 

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25 Responses to “Is 17th Precinct worth airing? A script review”

June 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM

When I think Bionic Woman, I think David Eick who was the executive producer.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0880557/fullcredits#cast

June 7, 2011 at 6:42 PM

That’s true. But, most publicity for the show bandied Moore’s name about. So, when I think of it’s failure I don’t blame Eick.

June 7, 2011 at 7:18 PM

You wrote:
Similar to Whedon, Ron Moore has his strengths and weaknesses. While he does a great job imagining and recreating new worlds (think Battlestar Galactica), occasionally he does an abysmal job fleshing out characters (think Bionic Woman).

June 7, 2011 at 7:24 PM

How could you possibly blame RDM for Bionic Woman when Eick was the Executive Producer?

June 7, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Are we clear yet on the fact that Ron Moore never had anything to do with Bionic Woman, whatsoever? Because I’m a little unclear on how his name could have been “bandied” when he had nothing to do with it.

June 7, 2011 at 8:07 PM

I used BW because it’s affiliated with RM, for good or bad. Pre-publicity and post-show-airing gossip shows addressing the ‘Bionic Woman’ tended towards ‘Ron Moore/BSG producers tapped to revamp Bionic Woman’ and ‘Ron Moore/BSG producers’ Bionic Woman fails.’ So, I mostly heard only Moore’s name or BSG. But, you’re right I should’ve pointed out that his partner did the work.

There are other projects I contemplated pointing to such as the, as yet unseen, ‘The Thing’ and, the assumedly in process, ‘Magic Kingdom’ where the companies brought in scriptwriters to re-work Moore’s first script. But, like Jar Jar Binks, BW is one of those failed sci fi characters people have actually seen and serves as tangible comparison.

So, despite the mixed review Brittany and I gave, is anyone hoping the pilot will see the light of day (or am I the only one)?

June 7, 2011 at 11:47 PM

is anyone hoping the pilot will see the light of day (or am I the only one)?

No, you’re not. I seriously doubt it will get a broadcast airing. That said, I’ll take it however I can get it.

June 8, 2011 at 12:49 AM

I would also like to see it. I figure if network suits thought it unfit to air it’s just got to be good.

June 7, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Let us know if you feel NBC should carry the unaired episodes over to SyFy in the comments.

What unaired episodes? They only shot a pilot, folks. That’s generally how it works.

June 7, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Not all the time. For H5-0 they shot the pilot and waited for the pick-up. For Fairly Legal, they went ahead and shot additional episodes after the pilot before the official USA pilot scheduling.

So, what do you think, should they at least air the pilot on SyFy, or maybe turn it into a mini-series (although considering they’ve probably packed everything up at this point, I doubt that’ll happen. However, that doesn’t mean I can’t hope for it ;) -

June 7, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Jamie Bamber didn’t leave L&O:UK for this project as such. He was contracted for three years and at the end of the current shoot, his contract was up. It’s likely he would have moved on anyway, as he discussed wanting to work in the U.S.; in fact, L&O:UK’s future is up in the air, as well, as ITV have yet to recommission it for another 13 episodes.

June 7, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Hence my use of the phrase “it’s been said.” I wasn’t stating it as a fact – just referring to some of the speculation that I had heard. I’m well aware of LOUK’s situation – several of my friends work on the show, and as such it’s a particular favorite of mine.

June 7, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Not sure what you’re talking about, Law and Order: UK was commissioned for a 3rd set of 13 episodes in October, they just haven’t aired yet. The last episode of series 4 just aired 2 months ago in April.

June 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM

The episodes shot in October are in the can, that’s Series 5 & 6 (Season 3 in the US when it airs on BBC America, presumably); Bamber’s in those. I’m speaking of a prospective fourth batch of 13, which has not been greenlit yet. I kind of don’t blame him for not wanting to wait about for that to happen, ITV are notorious for waiting until the last possible minute to make programming decisions of any kind. (It also remains to be seen who will be at the helm in the writers’ room; Emilia di Girolamo, who was the lead writer for the past two seasons, recently tweeted that she’s moving on, too.)

June 8, 2011 at 1:46 AM

Well I would really doubt they would greenlight a 4th batch before the 3rd even airs. With all of ITV’s financial troubles this seems to be one of the few original shows that they have. I’d wait until later this year to say anything about the future of the show.

June 7, 2011 at 8:10 PM

I loved the script. I remember Keith and I discussing it early on, and there were concerns about it being, at its base, a cop show, but I didn’t have a problem with that. I mean, Kings was just another primetime soap, but it was so much more. I think this had the potential to be so much more.

Was it a little gimmicky to cast so many people from BSG? Sure, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t right for the roles (Bamber and Callis in particular). Throw in Eamon Walker and Stockard Channing, and it was an incredibly well cast show. Hell, I think keep thinking Matt Long will have a break out role of these days (Though, I’ve got no love for Kruek).

I’d love to get my hands on this pilot, whether it is aired or not … Is this built for a SyFy miniseries? Yeah, I’d think so … So much more than The Event.

June 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM

That’s the thing, I don’t mind if it’s a cop show at the base, but it should have a well-developed core. It’s a shame NBC had two pilots so similar to each other. Despite the amount of CGI 17P probably requires, Sanctuary did it on a limited budget. So, fingers crossed it gets the same SyFy mini-series treatment as ‘Alice’ or ‘Tin Man.’

All the same, because they cast Stockard Channing and Eamon Walker, I wanted to see it. Also, because of the way he wrote Morgana, it looked like a good role for Tricia Helfer. She did a ton of stuff since ‘BSG’ ended, but I still feared she might eventually get locked into the sexy android role. Plus, I totally wanted to see Jamie Bamber rock the slightly longer hair …

June 7, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Yeah I should have caught the RDM/Bionic Woman mention and the L&O contract issue. It may be that it’s easy to associate anything Eick does as being related to RDM, but that’s just not fair. It’d be like associating any crap George Lucas does with Spielberg. :P

June 7, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Dude, don’t blame the editor. I’ll also take equal blame –

June 7, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I don’t want anyone to feel bad! I’m f-a-r from perfect, and am actually quite submerged in high piled excrement at the moment, by my husband for a stupid error on my behalf.

It’s just that RDM is BSG to me, and it was too big to let pass. :)

June 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Ah, you’re too hard on yourself, Keith. I qualified my statement about LOUK for a reason – that was just the buzz, and I didn’t want it to be stated as a fact given that I knew his contract also played a part. I’ll be sure to be more specific next time!

June 7, 2011 at 9:26 PM

I was hoping to see Bamber again in my tv!!!

June 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM

You and me both. (Especially after someone completely spoiled Outcasts for me.) But we know this won’t be the last we see of him!

June 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Probably no one will read this, since I’m long past June 7th. I would just add that hitting RM for The Bionic Women seems unfair. But I also think the review doesn’t get his weakness right. Moore can write killer dialogue, very nuanced moments, etc. He has lots of ideas, too. What he doesn’t seem to have mastered is integrating them into a coherent story. That’s why so many complain about Battlestar Galactica losing texture and viability on its back half. That’s why Caprica was such a storytelling mess. From what I have read of 17th Precinct, it sounds like more of the same. Lots of bits, some of them good, but not really blended into something fully palatable.

July 10, 2011 at 6:46 PM

I have no affiliations with the show and no fan-love for Ronald Moore, but I had the chance to see the pilot and personally thought it was extremely entertaining, inventive, and certainly better than any sci-fi/fantasy show currently on the air. It’s really a shame it wasn’t picked up. Good news, however, is that, considering how I got to see the pilot, I’m fairly certain it will be made public at some point.

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